tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post4368164288469727174..comments2023-10-26T00:08:26.205+01:00Comments on The Boiling Frog: Article 50, QMV and November 2014TheBoilingFroghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00791961503315586243noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-54991639621018312842014-10-28T07:27:57.431+00:002014-10-28T07:27:57.431+00:00Dont disrespect conspiracy theorists, because they...Dont disrespect conspiracy theorists, because they've so far been right on absolutely loads of different political points & if it wasnt for them, you idiots would still be waving the union jack whilst singing God save the Queen! I am proud to have been a conspiracy theorist & played my part in waking up the sheeple :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-71763984907535968152014-06-04T14:52:49.421+01:002014-06-04T14:52:49.421+01:00Thank you muchly - corrected. Always difficult to ...Thank you muchly - corrected. Always difficult to proof read your own work :-)TheBoilingFroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791961503315586243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-67994716875996101072014-06-04T14:45:39.280+01:002014-06-04T14:45:39.280+01:00"succession"="secession"?"succession"="secession"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-41289619552816012362014-06-01T20:39:46.337+01:002014-06-01T20:39:46.337+01:00I think it's more of a counter/spoiler to the ...I think it's more of a counter/spoiler to the Art 50 route, which they don't like because it isn't cut and thrust enough, but haven't much by way of substantial arguments to deflect.<br /><br />Very clearly nothing much is going to happen by Nov 1st 2014, even if you include the coalition collapsing before then UKIP achieving remarkable success, say 50 MPs in the ensuing GE.<br /><br />I can't see this being like shouting "fire!" in a crowded theatre, more of a chant for the faithful.<br /><br />CC activists are a bit more creative in their scare tactics. Catastrophe is coming soon, and it will be terrible and these are the things we'll see; drowning coral islands, enviro refugees, ..... But they keep dreaming up new threats and forgetting old ones and changing the timeline. <br /><br />Even in their case the scare has worn very thin and they appear to be fighting a rear-guard action. The big problem there is getting rid of the legislation which has been enacted and eliminating the non-jobs and rackets.<br />cosmicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-50917229533938025422014-06-01T20:01:21.085+01:002014-06-01T20:01:21.085+01:00That thought crossed my mind too, I suspect also t...That thought crossed my mind too, I suspect also there's an element of trying to instill panic - i.e. we must do leave by a certain deadline or else. Climate change activists have adopted this tactic for years.TheBoilingFroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791961503315586243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-37494686890875090082014-06-01T19:59:44.156+01:002014-06-01T19:59:44.156+01:00"No doubt it will be down ticked relentlessly..."No doubt it will be down ticked relentlessly by the morons who prefer to believe fiction and conspiracy theory."<br /><br />Couldn't agree more...I've updated my piece with a link to a petition from a UKIP supporter. TheBoilingFroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791961503315586243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-26078064595237536852014-06-01T19:46:12.976+01:002014-06-01T19:46:12.976+01:00I don't think so.
Explaining this myth is a m...I don't think so.<br /><br />Explaining this myth is a myth is a bit like farting in polite company. Everyone more or less pretends not to notice, and although they may ease away from you a bit, they carry on as is nothing has happened. <br /><br />Next time they are back at it with undiminished enthusiasm.<br /><br />Another myth that won't die is the Conservatives' renegotiation tosh, although they seem to have gone quiet on the repatriation of powers bit. There are numerous others.<br />cosmicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-90325014619063325872014-06-01T18:04:07.904+01:002014-06-01T18:04:07.904+01:00I've left a comment in response to that 'b...I've left a comment in response to that 'best rated' rubbish on the Beano comment thread:<br /><br />--------------------<br /><br />The ignorance of people like Agrippina on these threads - and the ignorant fools who accept their ludicrous comments as accurate and 'up tick' them, at face value, with NO effort to find out the facts - never fails to amaze me.<br /><br />Article 50 is not a request to leave the EU. It is a<br />notice *telling* the EU we're leaving... we're off... bye! We don't need permission to leave under Article 50 and we don't need other member states to agree to us leaving. QMV only applies<br />to the outcome of any possible negotiations regarding the new relationship between an independent UK and the EU.<br /><br />Seeing as UKIPpers are fond of telling us that Germans will still want to sell us their cars if we leave the EU, there is no reason for the negotiations not to go well and for the UK to remain part of the Single Market in a negotiated settlement upon leaving the EU. So what is the purpose of all these conspiracy theories?<br /><br />You make the anti-EU side look exactly like fruitcakes and loonies. We can do without it. So check your facts before making such stupid comments.<br /><br />--------------<br /><br />No doubt it will be down ticked relentlessly by the morons who prefer to believe fiction and conspiracy theory.Autonomous Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06486289897038432660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-79633009387925457572014-06-01T15:34:32.821+01:002014-06-01T15:34:32.821+01:00This Nov 1st 2014 business seems like a myth that ...This Nov 1st 2014 business seems like a myth that won't die, despite the determined attempts of Denis Cooper, Richard North and others to subject it to death by facts.<br /><br />I assume that it's put about by the "And with one mighty bound they were free", repeal the ECA and forget the details persuasion.<br /><br /><br /> cosmicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-70821423711572769392014-06-01T13:21:55.378+01:002014-06-01T13:21:55.378+01:00Government consists of people claiming the authori...Government consists of people claiming the authority to rule over others, people making up rules, people forcing compliance with these made up rules and people who believe they must obey the rules being forced upon them as they believe it is right and proper that others should have authority over them.<br /><br />Perhaps on some level you recognise this which is why you despair. <br />Perhaps not, but to expect 'authority' to somehow turn from bad to good once the 'bad uns' have been replaced by some 'good un's' is true despair.Billnoreply@blogger.com