tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post4414490943642729486..comments2023-10-26T00:08:26.205+01:00Comments on The Boiling Frog: Delingpole: Another MI5 Agent...TheBoilingFroghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00791961503315586243noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-67052019350250522562014-06-17T18:09:09.420+01:002014-06-17T18:09:09.420+01:00I agree with that, but I don't wish to abstain...I agree with that, but I don't wish to abstain at general and local elections (something which is never interpreted by the Parties or the Commentariat as 'None of the Above' - rather, it is interpreted as Apathy: which definitely is not the case! I would rather lose my eye-teeth than vote LibLabCon: therefore I need a Party like UKIP which at least claims to have similar beliefs to myself. <br />Admittedly, UKIP under Farage is going nowhere fast, esp on Brexit, BUT a) I doubt the Establishment will ever let us have a referendum, and b) Such a referendum is pretty certain to be lost anyway - and a great BREXIT planwouldn't help in the slightest since the average voterwouldn't be interested and couldn't understand such a plan if it were spoonfed to him/her.<br />Cynical? I think pretty realistic!Ian Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-90221636578709907952014-06-09T09:59:39.908+01:002014-06-09T09:59:39.908+01:00Sadly you are right about Farage and UKIP but I sa...Sadly you are right about Farage and UKIP but I say a vote for the Liblabcon is worse.Four parties are better than three for it proves that people are willing to change the status quo, the more division the better.Peter Whalenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-24055182335545894622014-06-09T08:26:33.403+01:002014-06-09T08:26:33.403+01:00As it currently stands Ukip isn't an alternati...As it currently stands Ukip isn't an alternative either, a vote for them is a vote to stay in the EU. No polices or even an exit policy means we will lose any referendum. Bloom even recognises that:<br /><br />"Even on its core issue of getting Britain out of the EU, Ukip has a problem. In 2012, polls suggested more than half of voters wanted to bid Brussels au revoir. That figure has now slumped to around a third."<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2651747/A-one-man-band-no-policies-Former-Ukip-Euro-MP-Godfrey-Bloom-hes-uneasy-future-party.html<br /><br />Policy free parties don't win elections (that count) and don't win referendum campaigns.<br /><br /><br />TheBoilingFroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791961503315586243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-10792469153116126142014-06-08T22:17:34.223+01:002014-06-08T22:17:34.223+01:00Truly sadly, there is NO current realistic alterna...Truly sadly, there is NO current realistic alternative to UKIP. The Harrogate Agenda? - Haha, who has even heard of it , and who, amongst our rather mindless electorate would study it enough to even get the gist of it? What amazes me most is that North sems to think that logic and compelling arguments will eventually win the day: yes, indeed, just like he managed to make Farage see sense!Ian Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-17172501007030346442014-06-06T21:17:06.075+01:002014-06-06T21:17:06.075+01:00It may appear we are talking to ourselves because ...It may appear we are talking to ourselves because of the number of comments. However the thousands of readers attracted between EU Ref, TBF, WfW and AM suggests a good many people are getting a realist point of view. <br /><br />A bit like TBF, it sometimes surprises me the kind of people who read my blog. When I was contracting at one of the big six energy companies, I was stunned to hear the Chairman and the CEO discussing one of the posts on my blog (with no idea I was the author) and how it related to their business.<br /><br />I know that Farage was having regular print outs and updates of my posts relating to the Somerset Levels flooding. I know my expose of William Dartmouth's wind farm plan stirred a hornet's nest.<br /><br />If we are reaching those levels we are likely reaching the next generation of leadership and hopefully influencing their thinking. Autonomous Mindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06486289897038432660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-8369208118211062202014-06-06T13:27:10.800+01:002014-06-06T13:27:10.800+01:00I appreciate your comment regarding 'talking t...I appreciate your comment regarding 'talking to ourselves - it's one of the reasons I try to link to as many different blogs as possible,<br /><br />However what may not be obvious - and it wasn't to me for some time - is the diversity of the readership and thus influence, which often incorporates some senior members of UKIP, Whitehall and journalists<br /><br />However it is my view that UKIP will, in its current guise, lose us a referendum - I therefore cannot remain silent, even if it means talking to myself.<br /><br />I simply won't go down without a fight.TheBoilingFroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791961503315586243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-46771691196806534572014-06-06T09:48:25.724+01:002014-06-06T09:48:25.724+01:00Whilst I agree with many of the posts by Frog -EU ...Whilst I agree with many of the posts by Frog -EU Ref etc It is with regret that it appears they spend most of the time talking to themselves Mikewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536547358855176801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-40037229105464792032014-06-06T09:13:48.519+01:002014-06-06T09:13:48.519+01:00They obviously care enough to take time to comment...They obviously care enough to take time to comment...TheBoilingFroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791961503315586243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-53631756686950194992014-06-06T05:17:27.411+01:002014-06-06T05:17:27.411+01:00YesYesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6693950082152211516.post-88387882290633197032014-06-06T02:19:21.559+01:002014-06-06T02:19:21.559+01:00Does anyone actually take any notice of self-impor...Does anyone actually take any notice of self-important bloggers like Autonomous Mind? Outside the Tooting Popular Front, er Harrogate Agenda group, that is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com